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Quick Poll Results
Has Christmas become too commercialized?
| Total Voters: 1443 |
| Yes |
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26% |
| No |
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26% |
| Undecided |
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26% |
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| Wfs | 01/29/09 | 6:22pm | Tunnel vision = Not being able to predict what is going to happen next in any given situation, due to the general lack of an overall view of the situation. [Hope that explains it.] |
| Wallander | 01/27/09 | 9:04am | Hi Pat....you lovely fine dame, & hi there Milkshake....you crazy lovable thing.....hi Bam Bam, you super- intelligent HOT creature....hi Amanda, you're being missed, you lovely HOT babe....hi Zera, you crazy lovely mama.....hi Ed, my awesome bro who's got STYLE pouring out of his hands......you're all a bunch of beautiful people, both on the outside & the inside......sweeeeet mother of love, my sausage is on fire.....dont worry i'm actually frying some sausage & bacon..;-D |
| Milkshake | 01/24/09 | 9:07am | What's our new poll for Valentines Day? |
| Zera | 01/24/09 | 1:20am | Hi Milkshake
I knew what u meant LOL
N what u add makes me go BBBBBRRRRRR
n i wanna swear ............JESUS!!!
Patty nice to see u BACK on track. Check ya mail when u see this hon
Ed u rock man!
WALLANDER WHERE ARE U DARL???? |
| Milkshake | 01/23/09 | 4:09pm | Pat, I bought sheer drapes too and I also got a valence with beeds on them. I hope it looks good after I put them up. |
| Pat | 01/23/09 | 1:29pm | Milkshake, about 6 or 7 yrs. ago, I got rid of my closet doors and bought 2 pair of sheer curtains and put them up. I like it better like that. It doesn't look bad, either. I'm very eclectic with my style. |
| Pat | 01/23/09 | 10:37am | Ed, I am so happy that your son is going to spend time with you. Bam Bam gave good sound advice about a therapist. And by the way, I'm so glad that your are starting to talk about Amanda some. In this poll or any future poll that you want to talk about your son and daughter, do it. We all help each other. I wonder if maybe your son had an argument with his sister before she got killed. You know how siblings can love each other, but argue over silly things. He could have misplaced guilt, but can't talk about it. I hope one day soon he will talk about her, but don't push him into it...well you know that, you're dad. Bam Bam, I liked the First Lady's gown, but her hair would have looked gorgeous pulled up and fixed in ringlets to really show her neck and those beautiful ear rings better. But I do like how she is setting her own trend in clothing and not doing what the media expects her to do. She is well educated and has her own mind. I loved that black and red dress with the belt that everyone tried to make a big deal about. Their two little girls are very pretty and they look very happy. I can tell that Michelle is a good mom. She will have many functions she will have to attend and having her mother living with them will be good for the girls when mom and dad are so busy. But they will all have their family quality time together. To 111, I don't hate Woody Allen, but I never liked him. I dislike him even more when he scr**ed the adoptive daughter they raised from a kid. One day being dad and the next being the lover. How gross! Now to this poll...it just doesn't make sense. I feel bad for the people that like to vote and then debate each other's comments. That being said...Bam Bam welcome back and "talking" with us. Others should come in and talk. This poll apparently isn't going anywhere for awhile. I enjoy all of our conversations. I'm happy when someone tells something happy. I hurt with the ones that need to talk about very hurtful things. It helps to talk and cry and laugh. I laugh at many of the funny comments or jokes. We might have to hint to each other about some topics in case a kid is in here sometimes. I know we are strangers, but I still feel a kind of kinship with everyone. All I know for sure...behind each finger typing is two hands and behind those hands is a human being with a heart and a mind and a soul. I thank everyone for being in here for me. I have received much strength from some of you with what I am going through. Well, I had to do damage control for my mom last night, because I broke apart. I don't want to put anything on her, because I want her to be around for a long, long time. I am going to have to go in for surgery soon. They found two "somethings" high up in both nostrils that doesn't look normal. They are going to have "them" biopsied and explore more. I'll let everyone know before I go in and let everyone know something as soon as I can. I love all of you so much and thank you so much. |
| Milkshake | 01/23/09 | 9:35am | I am so happy for you Ed!! That's great news! I know you guys will have a great time together. My morning isn't going so well. I live in an old condo. And my bedrom closet doors broke. So today I am shopping for drapes to cover all the crap that's in my closet! God! The sliding door is leaning towards my clothes....LOL. See ya guys later. Wish me luck in my shopping. |
| Ed | 01/23/09 | 4:37am | Good Morning Dear Friends, Hey Wallander missed you buddy. Hope you are doing well my friend. I am very concerned about Pat and have been thinking about her. She is such an angel. I pray that everything went well. Sweet Bam Bam thank you for the suggestion about a therapist. I will check into that because it is a very good idea. I want to be able to help my son as much as I can. I am excited because I am going to see my son this weekend. He actually wants to stay with me this weekend, usually we stay at a hotel close to his mothers house. Now he wants to come home and stay with me. I am so excited, and hope my persistence is paying off. I am hoping that he wants to come and live with me permanently. Well I have alot to do before I go and pick him up. Thank you to everyone on this site that helped me with this. All of you are wonderful people and I wish you all the very best my friends. Talk to you on Monday. :) |
| Milkshake | 01/22/09 | 7:59pm | Hey Snort! LOL Where's our new poll? |
| Wallander | 01/22/09 | 4:14pm | Hey peeps. Hey there Ed. How are you doing buddy? Thanks for the words. Hope you're great yourself. I like to also join you, in wishing Pat a safe day at the hospital. Hope everything will be exactly the way they should. I'll be back again either tomorrow or the day after. Been a bit lazy lately with my PC, which is actually quite alright with me. I honestly think my blood pressure goes a few notches higher everytime i'm online. My brain becomes over-active whenever i feel drawn into a debate. I get that comment perfectly 111. Haha... SOME people with overactive minds are rather very stressful individuals to have to deal with. But there are also others who are exactly opposite of that. They have a liberating way of thinking & communicating, EVEN IF they sometimes balance on the edge of lunacy.(LOL) There are a few individuals that come to my mind right now, who are like that. Speaking of something else, i'd like to congratulate all you Yanks for your new prez. I think the one GREAT thing about Obama is, that EVEN IF he does not achieve the things he's promised, atleast he'll be a fantastic spiritual factor for the country...at the end of the day, that's what counts the most...whether the new man in the Office brings a spirit of freshness & & optimism with himself. See you all again in a few days.....ps! Is there such a things as "dangerous innocence"? |
| Milkshake | 01/22/09 | 11:40am | That's not what I meant, Zera. In my opinion, it doesn't matter about the age. Nixon was dead before Bush became president. Meaning that Nixon had to relive himself as president again. |
| Zera | 01/22/09 | 11:11am | Hey Milkshake
well i doubt it as Bush must been a teen or yound kid under Vietnam War. I dunno bc i wont go as far as to look. N even if he was wouldnt that make Bush a kidteen young man n not as old as he really is???? |
| 111 | 01/22/09 | 9:56am | I hate Woody Allen and his messy head |
| Milkshake | 01/22/09 | 8:52am | Zera, not to be funny; but yes I have noticed a very close resemblence between both Bush and Nixon. Maybe Bush was Nixon in a past life? Life is strange. |
| Bam Bam | 01/22/09 | 7:20am | I know it must be difficult and I won't go on after this I hope you don't mind my offerring this last bit of advice- but since your can't go to the therapist you should go - not necessarily for you per se' but, they will help you to communicate with him to him to draw him out. My son went through a terrible depression once and I went to a therapist to learn how to communicate in conjuction with this situation and to learn other coping skills for my self. I felt like a failure on so many levels because I didn't understand him. My son also learned to manipulate us with his condition (not that yours will) but the skills we learned helped us conquer that and draw him out. He's doing much better now. It's not just your son - it's always the whole family that needs to learn new way to communicate until the stressor passes or is healed and the pain subsides. I'm sorry to if I am overstepping my bounds with unasked for advice. But, I've been there to a certain degree and I hope it's okay to share my experience with you as well. |
| Ed | 01/22/09 | 5:36am | Good Morning Friends, Pat, Bam Bam and Milkshake thank you for your kind comments. It means alot. I have tried a therapist, but my son refuses to go right now, so I continue to press ahead letting him know I love and care for him very much and also stressing that I am there for him whenever he needes me. Pat you said you will be in the hospital all day today. I hope you are ok. Let me know how you are doing. On another note what happened to the Poll Master did he or she get fired I wonder. We certainly need a new poll. What happened to my friend Wallander??? I hope he comes back soon. I enjoy his comments. He is a great guy. Well have to let Max out and go to work. Have a Wonderful Day! Oh! and Bam Bam, I guess I wish Obama luck, we really need it now. :) |
| Zera | 01/22/09 | 1:58am | Hiya
have u guys noticed a resemblance between bush n nixon? face n bodywise? i have. further both has lead usa down the drain ........both fought wars that cannot b won. juss alone look at those similarities. i PRAY Obama can do better. Ye n now shred me to pieces. LOL |
| Bam Bam | 01/21/09 | 5:09pm | Ed I'm so sorry, I've been away for a while and I don't recall reading what Pat and everyone is talking about. I've been scanning the other comments and I'm so sorry for your loss. Have you spoken to a counselor about how to communicate with your son? I would recommend that since he is so delicate right now. They will steer you in a good direction. A trip to a cabin sounds like a good start. Again, I'm so sorry for your loss. |
| Bam Bam | 01/21/09 | 5:03pm | Ed you should wish him luck, it's your future and country too. I would think it would be better to see him succeed than to fail. I think Obama has the right idea, we're all in this together, sacrifices and all. Change is difficult no matter who you are and our country desperately needs to move into the future. I also like that he capped Washington salaries right off the bat. That was a good first move. As for Michelle's choice of wardrobe it was very tasteful. AND any woman will tell you we all trip on our gowns. I tripped on my own wedding gown because of it's length. It goes with the territory. It's certainly nothing to judge a peerson on. But, then I still can't shake those hooker boots! HAHA - I think we're all gonna be okay. |
| Pat | 01/21/09 | 1:56pm | Your welcome, Ed. I'm hoping that any of us that knows each other just a tiny bit by now with all our differences, whether good or bad, our ups and downs and everything in between wouldn't hold anything against the other. That's why I felt I could tease you about the republican part. Even WHENEVER? a new poll starts the debating comments again. Milkshake is right. Your son still loves you, but it hasn't been that long and the memory is still fresh in everyone's minds. Every person handles grief differently. I don't know that I could handle it at all. When you try in those different ways to contact him, how does he react? There is still probably a lot of anger over what happened and he may strike out at anyone around. Or he just doesn't face it at all. You know not to take it personally. It would be a good idea to ask him to go to the cabin for a week of guy stuff. If he says no, wait a month or two, then ask again. I won't be here tomorrow, will be at the hospital all day. See ya Friday. |
| Milkshake | 01/21/09 | 1:18pm | Ed, boys are weird especially when they are growing up. I have a son too. It's gonna be alright Ed. I truly feel you and your son will have another beginning in weeks to months. Don't worry, Ed. Your son really loves you. |
| Ed | 01/21/09 | 12:21pm | Hello everyone, Thanks Pat for not holding it against me that I am a consertive republican. You are right we are all people with a little bit of everything in us. Pat a few comments ago you asked about my son and how he felt about his sisters death. He lives with his mother, and we don't seem to talk lately. I keep trying though, because I won't lose another child. I write, email, call and have shown up on their doorstep to see him. It's difficult because he is hurting and I can see it. I wish he would open up to me so he can start to heal. I was thinking that he loves my cabin so I was thinking to taking him up there for a week to relax, do some fishing and all that guy stuff. Maybe it would help. All I know is that I need to reach him. Opps! Max is bugging me to go out. Have a Good Afternoon. :) |
| Milkshake | 01/21/09 | 11:06am | I like Irish. And I like green! |
| Pat | 01/21/09 | 10:59am | Hi John, I hope this country can get up on it's feet again. It would help a lot if Pres. O'bama can get it at least up on its knees. The U.S. is in pretty bad shape, if you look at from the view of the hundreds of thousands of people that are suffering from our flopped economy. From both sides of my parents' families, there are a mixture of Irish, German, Cherokee and Apache. Seems like there was something else, but I can't remember right now. I just say we are "mutts" with a little bit of this and a little bit of that. |
| John | 01/21/09 | 10:15am | Hi Pat Im Irish and it was a great day yesterday when Obama got in makes me believe again America is the Greatest country on earth |
| Pat | 01/21/09 | 9:53am | Milkshake, you got me beat. I think I've guessed everything under the sun, moon and stars why this poll is still here. Maybe someday it will change, huh? |
| Milkshake | 01/21/09 | 8:58am | Obama promised millions of more jobs for our country. I believe he will keep that promise. I'm sorry to say, but in my opinion, when Bush was pesident, our country was such sad place to live. Everything changed. Really. Take a look back at the last 8 years. It was time for a change. And that change will happen. And also, why is this poll so damn long? It's time for a CHANGE! |
| Pat | 01/21/09 | 7:39am | John, that joke was so funny. Ed, I'm not going to yell at you, "you ol' republican you." The nation will just have to see, but things are already a huge mess that he is walking into. It will take time, probably a lot of time to even begin to straighten everything out. But we are still friends regardless. |
| Jaymee | 01/21/09 | 7:30am | You O'bama haters can complain all you want but it is not going to change the fact that he is our president for the next 8 years and you cant do anything about it. WE voted him to be there so suck it up. Or move to some other country until the Hillary Clinton and Sarah Palin running in 2012. ; ) either way we should have hope that he can do at least some of what he is promising. with hope, jaymee :)
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| John | 01/21/09 | 5:23am | My wife said to me she read an article that a Bull at stud had sex 3 thousand times last year. I asked her to ask the bull was it with the same old cow |
| Ed | 01/21/09 | 4:16am | Good Morning Everyone! I know alot of you like Obama, sorry I don't. I don't trust his liberal background and the friends he chose to hang with. I think that alot of money was wasted yesterday for him. Hell he screwed up on the swearing in ceramony. His wife looked terrible in that dress that was to long. She kept tripping on it. It looked like it was patched together. I know you all are going to yell and call me names, but till he changes everything to his liberal thinking I will say what I feel. It is still America for now and I know there is nothing I can do to get rid of him so I will have to give him a chance. We will see how he does. I have to say I do not wish him luck. Yesterday was a very depressing day for America. I just hope all of you are right that he has the right stuff to get America back on its feet and keep us safe from another 911. Have a Good Day from you Conservative Republican friend, I hope you all still feel that way.:) |
| Pat | 01/21/09 | 4:07am | I was so relieved. I can't help it, but I thought it was funny that people couldn't wait to see him gone. The news said that he was the first president in HISTORY with the lowest popularity. I'm glad we have President O'bama now. But bush has left such a disastrous mess for him, it will take such strength and perseverence for him to endure each mess that confronts him and there are plenty of them. Then he has all those ancient men to deal with. |
| Bam Bam | 01/20/09 | 11:15pm | I was thinking two words when Bush's helicopter took off. Good Ridence. No seriously, I felt he must have been a little jealous of the turnout at the event because no one showed up for him like that. But he also looked as though he couldn't wait to leave. I think he's relieved his job is over but, sad too he has left us quite of legacy from his administration and not a good one. He's got the rest of his life to look at his face in the mirror, I can't imagine being him. I'm glad the Bush era is over, I can finally move on from 9-11. LOVE Michelle's ball gown tonight, someone is dressing her well! She's made very good choices all day long. Can you imagine what it must be like to be the little ones in the White House? I was really shocked at the luncheon when I saw Dr. Biden in a very casual work dress. She should have put more thought into the occasion. But, remember you heard it here first! LOL Fake fashionista girl here. Night All! |
| Paula | 01/20/09 | 4:59pm | Ok, I've a question for those watching todays festivities: How did you feel, or what were you thinking when the Bush helicopter took off from Washington? |
| Pat | 01/20/09 | 2:25pm | Well....will someone come up with a new poll? |
| Pat | 01/20/09 | 10:57am | That was funny, Bam Bam. I finally got to see pictures of them. Michelle's dress was lovely. I don't know what Biden's wife was thinking. I can't wait to see their Ball gowns tonight. |
| Milkshake | 01/20/09 | 10:51am | Hooker boots? That's funny Bam Bam. LOL |
| Pat | 01/20/09 | 10:27am | I was so busy, I forgot all about it. But I'm sure they'll show some of it tonight, before tonight's Ball. I heard they had many Balls to go to tonight thru early morning of Wednesday. They are going to be so tired. How did everyone's weekend go? This poll has been OH SO OVER! I guess we can....what? I'm at a loss! Whhheeewww....let's see....no, talked about that....uh, yea, we discussed that....what about this?....no....did it................................................and on and on and on.................................................... |
| Bam Bam | 01/20/09 | 10:25am | Milkshake I did, I'm still watching! Everyone kept calling me and asking me if we were watching, I finally told them - "I'm not anymore because you keep calling!" HAHAHA They were like "oh". What a great ceremony Michelle and the girls looked so wonderful. I must say though I think the girls were just a pretty and so well dressed for the occasion. My husband wanted to know where Mrs. Biden got the hooker boots. I thought she was a little underdressed. She looked like she was ready for a day of shopping, not the inauguration. She needed a more formal overcoat. What a great day! The Bush era is over! |
| Milkshake | 01/20/09 | 8:49am | Okay! Lets have a show of hands on who is going to watch the Inauguration today. |
| Pat | 01/20/09 | 5:49am | Yes, I agree English should be the first option. I, also, believe we are catering to illegals. I know a Mexican family that moved here the legal way and after they bacame Americans and their son grew up he joined the Navy. They still love their culture and have their way of living, but they love America, also. They continue to teach english and spanish to their daughter, she was with us from 2 months old to 5 yrs. old. All 3 speak english beautifully. These are the ones we all agree with, but not the illegals. So many of them are criminals coming in illegally. It's horrible. |
| Bam Bam | 01/19/09 | 8:10pm | Pat I wrote to the webmaster a few days ago. I actually had that same thought and almost wrote to them that I hoped everything was okay. It's not like them to leave us to our own vices for too long. hehe. I'm so glad you said MC to everyone, I am beginning to believe that the hype a few years ago was just some garbage someone wrote about to start an issue over something that never really was. I'm still up insensed over that automated answering system that gave me the choice of English. Spanish should be the only option given, English should be the primary at all times. My son was listening to the call because it was on speaker and even he was guffawed at it. Does anyone agree with me? Has anyone noticed that commerically we seem to be catering to Mexicans? I actually saw jerseys at the store that said Mexico on them. I think we're going a bit overboard. Let's face it when the Germans, Irish etc. moved here no one catered to them or any other nationality for that matter. It's like we're welcoming illegals. I don't like the attention we're paying them, we certainly don't give that attention to anyone else. |
| Pat | 01/19/09 | 10:39am | Bam Bam, that's why I told everyone I met Merry Christmas. But believe it or not, no one said anything harsh back. It wasn't that way a couple of Christmas's ago., when it was all over the news and everyone made a big deal about those two words. Thank you very much. I had to come in for a couple of hours and get some work done. We are closed today. I'm very surprised this poll is still in here. I really hope that the person that changes the polls is okay. I'm starting to get a little worried. Talk to everone in the morning. Love ya. |
| Milkshake | 01/19/09 | 8:44am | Thanks Zera. I like Astrology alot. And I know alot about it, but no I don't do charts. |
| Zera | 01/19/09 | 3:30am | Hey Milkshake
Ill pray u get an awesome xmas 2009.
Astrologycharts? u do them?
zera |
| Bam Bam | 01/18/09 | 7:10pm | WEBMASTER PLEEEESE WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO TO GET A NEW POLL???????????????????? Pretty please with sugar on top? |
| Milkshake | 01/18/09 | 8:54am | Hey Zera! Okay...I had a awful Christmas for 2008. I am hoping that ALL of us have a wonderful, better Christmas for 2009. You see, I haven't had a good Christmas in a while. Maybe it was negative astrological apects in my chart; such as pluto? Well now pluto moved out of my sign, Sagitarius. So hopefully I will see a big improvement. Talk to you soon. |
| Zera | 01/18/09 | 1:20am | Hi Milkshake my good ole buddy, or ought I say my good ole friend duDESS???
LOL
Well next year??? Do ya mean xmas 2010? Or fdo ya mean 2009? Confused here LOL
Ahm ...... well xmas 2008 was surprisingly nice 4 me. Yet it could have been better had my man been there Heheheheheeh
I PRAY n WISH that i this year ( 2009 ) will get to have some holidays with my man, say thanxgiving n xmas n new years n so on .............
hmmm time will show no?
Cheers all. |
| Milkshake | 01/17/09 | 1:46pm | Do you think we will have a better Christms next year? |
| Zera | 01/17/09 | 12:51am | YO WEBMASTER N ADMIN
MERRY BELATED XMAS N HAPPY NEW YEARS.
MAY WE PLZ HAVE A NEW POLL WE CAN ARGUE OVER ??? LOLOLOL THANX A BUNC |
| Bam Bam | 01/16/09 | 7:59pm | Hey all Pat it's not bad to say Merry Christmas to other religions. How are you supposed to know who is what? Christmas has and is an American Tradition...should we change our traditions simply because other don't like them? No. They don't change a darn thing for us anywhere in this world. We are America we are free to be ourselves, worship how we please and celebrate how we choose. If we choose to say Merry Christmas we are only sharing our love and joy with strangers and that is what Jesus is all about. NOW you know what drives me nuts... something that I think is rude...when I call somewhere and it says to press 1 for English...I'm not pressing one; English is our language it's not a choice! They should only offer Spanish as the choice. Not english. We must fight for our heritage, and keep it close to our hearts even if all were doing is pressing one for English and saying Happy Holiday we're slowly giving away those traditions and heritage. It's no difference to say Happy Holiday or Merry Christmas it's the same damn holiday whoever your wishing it to. If they don't like it they can lump it...it's America you have the freedom not to like Christmas an worship Satan if you want. I made a point of saying Merry Christmas to every dang person i could find this year! hahha (insert evil laugh). I'm American and this is my tradition, anyone out there having a Holiday I don't partake in, feel free to wish me a happy whatever! Pretty soon with all the new immigrants America won't be the place of all these freedoms because certain immigrants will bitvch that it's offensive and we'll stop doing them. WELL get the F outta my country if you don't like it! Sorry my TSH is high and I'm a bit aggressive lately. But seriously Pat...everyone....never feel it's rude to share your Joy at the Holiday Season. |
| Milkshake | 01/16/09 | 3:38pm | Can we please he a new poll? It is long after Christmas. New Poll Please! |
| Pat | 01/16/09 | 10:20am | Have a nice quiet few days from it all. |
| Wallander | 01/16/09 | 9:55am | Well, that was pure luck Pat. I recon i was thinking about a famous Disco singer from the 80's...Pattie LaBelle? Don't know if i spelled her full name correctly. Have a great weekend Pat...& everyone else....i'm going to try keeping my PC 'off' for a couple of days....time to break the PC-addiction once & for all....;-))...and NO, i do NOT own a lap top....i still live in the Medieval age appearantly....LOL.... |
| Pat | 01/16/09 | 9:34am | Selflessly Selfish, It's okay. Yes, I guess it does scare everyone or make them nervous. Glad you're in here. Stay with us. Everything that you said in the other comment, that is how many doctors and nurses make those same mistakes and more. Wallander, this is so weird, but I used to go as Patty. |
| Selflessly Selfish | 01/16/09 | 9:01am | I understand you perfectly well Pat. I'm never good at surgeries myself. I thought maybe a bit of dark humor would take the edge off your worries. But the truth is that most people feel like frightened little children when we are in that situation. |
| Pat | 01/16/09 | 7:53am | Hi Wallander, Milkshake, Ed, Bam Bam, Amanda, Zera and everyone else. Lola, hi. Remember from the news? It is even an insult to other religions to even say Merry Christmas, which I did it anyway. Ed, that is every parents' worst nightmare. I walked on egg shells and prayed everyday that my son was in Afphganistan(I know I spelled that wrong somehow). I'm glad you said her name. It's good to talk about Amanda and remember all the things about her and I know it hurts to talk about her. Just tell little things at a time. Many marriages break apart when they lose a child and that's sad, too. I've talked to many people in the past that said when they lost a child their marraige broke apart. There are some that stay together though. I feel bad that it did that your marriage. How is your son doing? Does he ever want to talk about her? Yes, Milkshake will meet her man. Selflessly Selfish, I've been in many surgeries in my past. What you say doesn't scare me. I always have that fear anyway going under the knife. I always say to the surgeon and the nurses,"Please don't let me die on the table." Then I pray to the Great Spirit, "I want to live, please let me wake up". Ed, I'm in a better frame from of mind right now. It only gets rough on me when I go to all these doctor's and don't get good news. I am waiting and praying for good news. I agree Ed, that my faith is being tested. I know I have to be positive. It's getting hard though. I believe in miracles. Sometime I will tell all you the many miracles that have happened in me and my families lives. HUGE miracles. I know some won't believe, but that's okay. Hi, Wallander. Thank you for the nice compliment in your last comment in here. I feel the same way about you. Love everyone. |
| Wallander | 01/16/09 | 7:20am | I only need 1 thing from you Pat...just once in a while, i might need the advices of a sweet dame like yourself, on how to treat a lady...& in general, what things i should NOT be doing....etc.... Anyways i'm sure you're doing everything you can to feel great, but in case i can be of any help, i'll be more than happy to be at your service Patty.....and Ed...keep doing what you're doing my friend....**wink** ;-)) |
| Ed | 01/16/09 | 5:09am | Sorry my Friends, my laptop went crazy and sent my comments 3 times. :) |
| Ed | 01/16/09 | 4:46am | Good Morning My Friends, Pat, my sweetheart please don't loose your faith. Please remain positive and positive things will happen. Just remember that you faith is being tested now, believe me I know. We are all being tested we just have to do the best we can and hope along the way you meet people like you that makes a difference in your life. I know you, Wallander and Milkshake have made a big difference in how I feel about life. We also care about you very much so you are not alone. Just reach out to us and we will talk you through this. Pat you know when my daughter died I know that I felt the moment she passed because I was home sleeping and heard my daughter crying and calling for me. I woke up in a cold sweat and I swear about 15 minutes later I had the police at my door step. It was the worst experience in my life. The police had to hold me down because I was going to find my baby. My wife at the time said I looked like a mad man. It took 3 cops to hold me down. My daugher's name is Amanda. It was difficult to tell you this let alone her name. I usually don't talk or mention her name any more. After Amanda died my marriage fell apart and my wife left me. We have not talked in quite a while. Last I heard she married again and is happy I guess. Well enough of that. My Dear Milkshake your comments really touched my heart and I feel honored. You are a very sweet and sensitive person and some day a wonderful guy will come along and take care of you for the rest of your life and will give you lot's of babies and they will all have your wonderful soul. If I was your Dad I would be very proud of you. Well I better take Max out he is pacing the floor. I don't need any doggie accidents. My Dear Friends, Have a Wonderful Day! Pat I will be thinking of you today and will say an extra prayer for you. Keep your faith sweetheart, you are the BEST. |
| Ed | 01/16/09 | 4:46am | Good Morning My Friends, Pat, my sweetheart please don't loose your faith. Please remain positive and positive things will happen. Just remember that you faith is being tested now, believe me I know. We are all being tested we just have to do the best we can and hope along the way you meet people like you that makes a difference in your life. I know you, Wallander and Milkshake have made a big difference in how I feel about life. We also care about you very much so you are not alone. Just reach out to us and we will talk you through this. Pat you know when my daughter died I know that I felt the moment she passed because I was home sleeping and heard my daughter crying and calling for me. I woke up in a cold sweat and I swear about 15 minutes later I had the police at my door step. It was the worst experience in my life. The police had to hold me down because I was going to find my baby. My wife at the time said I looked like a mad man. It took 3 cops to hold me down. My daugher's name is Amanda. It was difficult to tell you this let alone her name. I usually don't talk or mention her name any more. After Amanda died my marriage fell apart and my wife left me. We have not talked in quite a while. Last I heard she married again and is happy I guess. Well enough of that. My Dear Milkshake your comments really touched my heart and I feel honored. You are a very sweet and sensitive person and some day a wonderful guy will come along and take care of you for the rest of your life and will give you lot's of babies and they will all have your wonderful soul. If I was your Dad I would be very proud of you. Well I better take Max out he is pacing the floor. I don't need any doggie accidents. My Dear Friends, Have a Wonderful Day! Pat I will be thinking of you today and will say an extra prayer for you. Keep your faith sweetheart, you are the BEST. |
| Ed | 01/16/09 | 4:46am | Good Morning My Friends, Pat, my sweetheart please don't loose your faith. Please remain positive and positive things will happen. Just remember that you faith is being tested now, believe me I know. We are all being tested we just have to do the best we can and hope along the way you meet people like you that makes a difference in your life. I know you, Wallander and Milkshake have made a big difference in how I feel about life. We also care about you very much so you are not alone. Just reach out to us and we will talk you through this. Pat you know when my daughter died I know that I felt the moment she passed because I was home sleeping and heard my daughter crying and calling for me. I woke up in a cold sweat and I swear about 15 minutes later I had the police at my door step. It was the worst experience in my life. The police had to hold me down because I was going to find my baby. My wife at the time said I looked like a mad man. It took 3 cops to hold me down. My daugher's name is Amanda. It was difficult to tell you this let alone her name. I usually don't talk or mention her name any more. After Amanda died my marriage fell apart and my wife left me. We have not talked in quite a while. Last I heard she married again and is happy I guess. Well enough of that. My Dear Milkshake your comments really touched my heart and I feel honored. You are a very sweet and sensitive person and some day a wonderful guy will come along and take care of you for the rest of your life and will give you lot's of babies and they will all have your wonderful soul. If I was your Dad I would be very proud of you. Well I better take Max out he is pacing the floor. I don't need any doggie accidents. My Dear Friends, Have a Wonderful Day! Pat I will be thinking of you today and will say an extra prayer for you. Keep your faith sweetheart, you are the BEST. |
| Selflessly Selfish | 01/15/09 | 5:47pm | Things you don't want to hear during surgery:
Better save that. We'll need it for the autopsy.
Someone call the janitor - we're going to need a mop.
"Accept this sacrifice, O Great Lord of Darkness!"
Spot! Spot! Come back with that! Bad Dog!
Wait a minute, if this is his spleen, then what's that?
Hand me that...uh...that...uh.....thingie.
Oh no! I just lost my Rolex.
Oops! Hey, has anyone ever survived 500ml of this stuff before?
Damn, there go the lights again...
"You know, there's big money in kidneys. Heck, the guy's got two of them."
Everybody stand back! I lost my contact lens!
Could you stop that thing from beating; it's throwing my concentration off.
What do you mean he wasn't in for a sex change...!
Anyone see where I left that scalpel?
This patient has already had some kids, am I correct?
Nurse, did this patient sign the organ donor card?
Don't worry; I think it's sharp enough.
What do you mean "You want a divorce"!
She's gonna blow! Everyone take cover!!!
FIRE! FIRE! Everyone get out of here! |
| Lola | 01/15/09 | 1:43pm | Too bad, but yes it has. What ever happened to days when Christmas meant more than getting electronics, video games, cell phones... Nothing wrong with these things in themselves but, we use them every day. I looked at my neighborhood and many like mine , all of the glory of Christmas wasn't there. Few lighted houses or no sign of Holiday Spirit. Too bad because Christmas was once a time for peace, hope and family togetherness. Commercialism played a small but significant role but now. it's taken away the true meaning. |
| Pat | 01/15/09 | 11:49am | Hi Ed, Wallander is right. Everything he told you was so beautiful. Ed, don't you realize that the Great Spirit(God) knows how you feel? Even though your daughter was taken from you? The Spirit is such a wonder! Even bigger than what people really know. Forgiveness is so far-reaching that most can't comprehend. Don't let your thoughts about that drunk disturb you. It's normal and human to have those feelings. You're not condemned when you have them. Sometimes when you are by yourself and it is quiet, do you ever feel a light tingle and light warmth touch you? Or ever hear a whisper of "dad" or whatever she called you? That is your daughter touching you. I have thoughts for the SOB that raped my daughter. We all help each other in many ways that we have no idea. Milkshake, I feel the same way about laughter. Laughter heals. It's food for the soul and actually for the body. Did you check out the raptor yet? Funny, huh? Bam Bam and Ed, Molly has always had many toys and big bones from the grocery store, but it still didn't stop her destruction, until she matured enough to stop. We even did everything the trainer told us to do, but she had/has such a stubborn streak. I still have to let her know that I am the alpha dog in the house, which my mom's little dog does damn good at that. She always has to be trained. We want to use her in nursing homes. But back to the bones, my mom boils the bones, freezes them, then we can take one out and heat it in water a little and it comes in very handy when we want to watch a movie. That's her popcorn. Bam Bam, I love the idea you do with the bones. I am definitely going to do that. She is already crazy about them anyway, but I bet she will love them even more fixed that way. Thank you so much. Ed, our pets are our babies to spoil. Mine are. My cats and Molly are rotten. We have had to have some of our babies euthanized in their older years if they became so sick it interfered with their quality of life. Man! That is a hard decision to make. We have stayed up with a few that were so old that in the night they would die from just plain age. We would pet and talk to them and tell them it was okay to go while we had to stay calm for them. We did that even for the ones to be euthanized. I would hold them and tell them I loved them as they slipped away. Then I would break down. I got to get off that subject right now. Sometime, I'll tell you about my dog Coco. But not now. Okay, about myself, my primary doctor said my ears are very bad, which I already knew they were getting bad. Next week, I have an appt. with an ENT. I'm slowly losing my hearing. Ed, if I had known that the MRI would have been so bad, I would have taken my daughter with me and told them to drug me up. I've had MRIs in the past, but this one totally freaked me out and I didn't even open my eyes in there. I hope at the end of all this stuff I can finally have good news for myself, my family, my dear friends in here and some of our parents that adore me. My faith is starting to waiver. I'm trying to stay positive, but it is starting to weaken. HELP! |
| Milkshake | 01/15/09 | 8:55am | Ed, I am so happy I make you laugh. Laughter is good. When I heard about your daughter I just sat at the computer screen and stared. I couldn't speak nor write. I have a big lump in my throat and I am crying. I am crying bad right now. I feel like I know you. You remind me of a step dad I had that past away. His name is or was Jerry. I wish Jerry and I would have been closer. You are a great man. Wonderful things will come your way. And you deserve it. |
| Ed | 01/15/09 | 4:35am | Good Morning Everyone! Hey Bam Bam, thanks for the receipe on the dog bones. I will give that a try. I'm sure Max will love it. Wallendar, my friend thanks for the compliment, but I do not feel like such a good person. There is not a day that goes by that I wish the drunk that killed my little girl die and if it could be by my hand all the better. That is not very Christian. I have to say that since coming on this site I realize there are such wonderful people out there like Wallendar, Pat, Milkshake (who makes me laugh) and Bam Bam that I feel ashamed for my thoughts of killing someone, because not all people are bad. So this meeting of the poll has really helped me, it's kind of like therapy. I want to thank all of you and it is a honor to know all of you even if it is on this website. Pat where are you my dear? I hope everything is ok. Keep in touch with us. I really worry about you. Please take it easy. Well everyone I have to go to work. Have a Wonderful Day Everyone! |
| Wallander | 01/15/09 | 4:15am | Ed...the story of your daughter really breaks my heart. You are a good man...you are the reason why all the rest of us guys should ALWAYS hold our heads up high, because of the way you manage to tackle such HORRIFIC events in your life...you've succeeded in giving a meaning to your own life, and THAT my friend, is your TALENT & a gift that you can give to EVERYONE who knows you[& needs you] or is going to know you in the future. I'm so envious of this ability of yours Ed...i hope i can also become like that someday, but right now it looks like Millions of light-years away. Pat, you're awesome & your humor is legendary. Bam Bam, you are very talented & resourceful...i like how people can be so good at finding simple solutions to little everyday problems. |
| Bam Bam | 01/14/09 | 8:24pm | Pat and Ed! Pat I hope your feeling better. Speaking of dog bones you guys, I have a super recipe that will keep any dog busy for a whole day! I use it on my 5 month old golden retriever. Get some marrow bones from your local grocery buthcer then bake them at 375 for an hour but make sure to drizzle honey all over them before you bake them. Not too much of course but enough for sweet flavor. All four of my dogs are quiet and soooo happy for hours and hours the pup was busy all day today and knocked himself out after a while! Try it you will love these. it's great for teeth cleaning and teething pups who love to chew! I swear by these! The smell a little funny when baking but it goes away right after your done. Have a good day all! |
| Ed | 01/14/09 | 12:56pm | Hi dear Pat! I am sorry you have to go through all of those tests. MRI's are the worst. Next time ask you doctor for something to take the edge off. You are a wonderful person and I know God will answer my prayers and take care of you and make you well. I have to believe that. My buddy Max is a very good boy. I know he is young but I have been working with him and he listens very well. He is very big boned and I am curious on how big he is going to get. He started to chew things like my shoes, well lets say he stopped that crap. I give him toys and when he gets the urge to chew I give him raw hide bones, big ones so he gets the urge out while chewing in those. He has a big box full of dog toys, everytime I go to the store I pick him up one. He is very spoiled. I brought him a coat and dog booties for our trip to the cabin. When it was cold he gladly wore them. Some people would say I spoil him alot, well I guess I do. I think I give him all this attention to fill in the empty space from my daughter. It's ok though, my daugther is looking down at me and shaking her head and saying that Dad you are a marshmellow. She could wrap me around her finger with just her smile. I miss her very much. Sorry everyone you got me on one of my bad days. Hey Wallander where are you man! Hope you are having a better day than I am. Milkshake I think peeps would be a cute name for a cat. I like cats but I am allergic to them so I cannot have one. Tammy where are you? Come back and join us. Well Max is begging to go out I think I will take him for a walk and get some air. See you later! |
| Pat | 01/14/09 | 10:55am | Hey Ed, your cabin sounds nice. Retiring to a cabin in the woods with just you and your dog is living the life. Your dog is still just a pup. How is he with chewing things up? I've had dogs and other animals always in my life, BUT never one like Molly. My dog Molly was young when I picked her up. During the time she was growing up, she chewed the arms off the couch and the arms on my mom's recliner off, we had to replace 3 remotes in the livingroom, she chewed the end corner of one of the tables, I forgot and left my purse down in the livingroom one time and she demolished that and almost everything in it, she got to my collection of DVDs and chewed many of those up and I had to replace them, tore her toys up wthin 5 minutes, she chewed shoes up, dug in my garden, so much more and this was while she was in classes. We had to start doggy proofing everything from her and she still found away around, over, or under anything. My mom wanted us to replace the livingroom furniture, but I told her no, because we might as well wait until she stopped. Thank the almighty powers she did stop and we got to replace everything. I just can't train her from killing wildlife and that breaks my heart. I still love her though. We didn't want her to be just an outside dog, because they have to grow up around family. They can get dangerous if they are left outside all the time, plus with three women living in a house, we wanted her inside. She does keep us safe(plus our weapons of protection). Milkshake, google in...velociraptor jurassic park... and watch a video. That's my Molly! Bam Bam, I don't know what to say...hope the pollster is still alive. You know? Oh yea, Ed, my trip to get the MRI done was a nightmare. I have never been claustrophobic, but this time I was. I wanted to stop, but they said that my neurologist insisted that I have it done. It took longer, because they had to take me out a couple of times. I felt like I couldn't breath and started feeling so anxious. I went this morning and got the ultrasound of my heart done today. Tests and more tests, it is starting to feel monotonous. Tammy, come on back in, nobody was mad. There are many friends in here. |
| Bam Bam | 01/13/09 | 6:58pm | Wow ...still this poll. I'm totally out of it guys. Can't wait to join in again. Hope we get a new poll soon. Maybe the moderator went to Washington for the inauguration and forgot us all. |
| Milkshake | 01/13/09 | 5:34pm | Pat, what is a raptor? And Tammy welcome to this website. Are you coming back? What other website do you go on or do you care to share what it is? I also wanted to add, that if I ever get a cat I want to name it Peeps......hee hee. |
| Tammy | 01/13/09 | 1:48pm | Hello! I am just passing by websites when I found this one. Ed you seem to be a very nice guy and I thought you were being picked on so the rebel in me came out and I just wanted to defend you. Sorry did not mean to tick anyone off. It seems you have a pretty nice group of people communicating on this site. That's nice. Well I have to move on to another site. Bye everyone! Be nice to each other, the way the world is it is nice to see people reaching out to each other and caring about each other. You all have a gift. Don't lose it. Bye! |
| Ed | 01/13/09 | 12:52pm | Pat you have such a wonderful sense of humor. My dog Max is still young. He is about a year old. I was working in the inside of my cabin and the garage. I am re-designing the kitchen layout with new cabinets and countertops. I bought new appliances last summer so it is still in the design stage. I was working in the garage putting up organizers for all my equipment, tools etc. I actually got alot done. I plan to go back up there in a few weeks to do more work. I can't wait till I can retire, that's where I want to be. I can just see it a man and his dog living the easy life. I wish all of us could live like that with no worries no illnesses. Pat I am so sorry about your illness. I cannot understand why someone like you who is so nice would have to go through what you are going through and there are so many evil people out there just going along with no problems. It is just not fair. Pat I wish you and Wallander and of course Milkshake the best of everything. I know I sound sappy, but you all have been good to me by making me laugh which helped me alot, and our conversations that I consider you all my friends. Take care! |
| Pat | 01/13/09 | 12:13pm | Milkshake, I almost forgot about Hannah. I looked her breed up and they are little beauties. You and Ed have dogs. I have a raptor. |
| Pat | 01/13/09 | 11:31am | Zera, I sent mail. You too, Wallander. Ed, I truly don't believe this poll is going to change. We...are...in...the...TWILIGHT ZONE. do do do do do do do do. What kind of work did you do on your cabin? Was it inside(where it was warm) or outside(where it was cold)? How old is Max? My Molly is, I think, around 2-1/2 yrs. old. I picked her up off the streets when she was a pup. I am so sorry that in one of my comments that I forgot about your daughter's death. Hell, my family can vouch for my memory loss that is going on. Unless I go back in the polls or write things down, I forget them. My family has to help me with all my doctor's appts. that I have this week and next week and even the next....you know, Ed? I'm just so tired. I finally told my family the worst case scenario. Talk to you, later. Love ya. |
| Milkshake | 01/13/09 | 7:14am | Hi Ed. Tammy was talking about Zero being insulting, not Zera. Someone came on here by the name of ZERO......LOL. |
| Ed | 01/13/09 | 6:23am | Hey everyone. Do you think they will ever change this poll. Hey man it's January!! Thanks Tammy for your comment, but I don't think Zera was being insulting. Can't we all get along. While thinking up in my cabin I have decided to try and not let things get to me. Life is to short. Pat how's it going sweetheart. I hope you are having a better day. Reading all the comments I knew I liked all of you, because you like dogs. I have always had a dog, and they have always been mutts. One time I had a full blooded german shepard and he was great. My daughter wanted it when she was a child so they kind of grew up together. He died one month before my daughter died. So they have each other in heaven. I know he will watch over her. Sorry don't mean to be depressing. Hey Milkshake how is it going. I like little dogs also but I am always afraid that I will step on them or squeeze them to hard when I hold them. Have A Nice Day Everyone! Have alot of things to do today. :) |
| Zera | 01/13/09 | 6:05am | Hey Pats
Naaahhh i dont let em mess with my head, i turn it around n mess with theirs instead lmao
by the by Pat, did u get my email reply? |
| Wallander | 01/13/09 | 5:35am | Oops, looks like you got there before me Pat...so i cannot even even TRY to salvage the situation a little now...that comment had absolutely NOTHING to do with YOUR pets....but sorry....i guess there's no way i can come out of this situation with my dignity in-tact...the less i talk now, the better....thank you & bye for now peeps... |
| Pat | 01/13/09 | 5:21am | Zera, ignore these people trying to mess with your head. They think very little of themselves to do this. Hi, Milkshake, chihuahuas are cute little things, but have big mouths. My mom's dog is real little. She is 8 yrs. old, her muzzle is getting gray around it. But she is the boss of my Molly(pit). But I have to watch Molly from killing wild animals. I love ALL animals and it hurts when she catches something that comes into our yard. At night when I take her to potty, she can't run the yard anymore, I put a leash on and tell her to go potty. Night-time excursions are over for her. Wallander, that is a SHOCK factor. Shame on you. |
| Wallander | 01/13/09 | 3:29am | Come to think of it, i kind of fancy my own 'good-luck pet'...a cat, or a dog...whichever captures my heart first....then i'd call him/her "Shaggy"...or "Orgazmus"... oh i know what you're all thinking....the only thing i can say to that is, go & read what Michael Leutin has said about Cancers this week....it sums up what i've been going thru eversince bloody last yr...basically i've been one hell of a HORNY little devil....i've had several "wet dreams" which are completely new to me btw...maybe because i quit masturbating at the age of 14....maybe i should take it up again as one of my current hobbies...LOL.... But all the silliness aside, i think i've been sending you several emails by now Pat....check them out & let me know.... |
| Milkshake | 01/12/09 | 5:01pm | Pat, I love Chihahuas (spelled wrong?).....dogs. I had one named Jezabell and my ex boyfriend had one named Coco Puff. They are such emotional dogs. But I'm content with my dog named Hannah. She's an Austrailian Sheppard mix. A real awsome, awsome dog!! |
| Zera | 01/12/09 | 2:52pm | Hi all
Ed u´re an a ok guy.
The rest including the peep ZerO, n so it starts again.
2 ZerO : says more of what kind of person u are than what u claim Ed to be.
Ed rise above it, n be flattered. The best of us has been called worse. So its a flattery LOL. I love to b flattered. Means they love us SOOOOOO much!! HEheheeheheheh |
| Pat | 01/12/09 | 1:48pm | Wallander, I sent 2 more emails that I don't think you got. Let me know, I've got to find out what happened. Bye. |
| Pat | 01/12/09 | 11:25am | Ed, it is awfully hard to get back to everyday life after 2 wks. in the woods. I knew it would be wonderful and I haven't played in the snow since I moved away from the state I mostly call home. I've camped out many times, in the past, under the stars. I love fireplaces and campfires. I figured you weren't roughing it, but still had a nice time. I'm glad you had Max with you. I couldn't take my pit bull out like that or there wouldn't be any wild animals around. I can commune with wildlife and I wouldn't want to draw them around for her sport. I love her, she is gentle with family and our cats. Oh, and my mom's chihuahua is Molly's(my dog) boss. Don't worry yourself and Max of a little weight gain. That can happen, no big deal. I go tomorrow at 5:00pm for an MRI of the brain and Wedn. I go for an Echo for my heart. Ed, you might put up a front of a tough guy, but the inside is tender. I think a little bit of both, well, a little bit more of tender, is nice in a man. I don't believe Zera typed in that you are a nut. Somebody is trying to mess with her head, which I think is CRUEL on their part. Milkshake, you are so funny like my Sag sister. You make me giggle, especially about the "snort". Wallander is right about your warm heart. And we are all different and unique. Just some more than others, which to me is a good thing. My family would say I am "quite unique" from childhood to adult. So if you are different, that's okay in my book, kiddo. Hey Wallander, I envy Ed, also. We mean that in a good way, Ed. I miss the country with woods and open fields and lakes...I need to stop reminiscing, it makes me homesick. Wallander, some of my pet names, when someone makes me laugh is...nut, nutty, goofy, crazy, idiot and a few more. I even say it to my family and even my pets when they make me laugh. And my pets are smart and goofy. Tammy, I'm not being snotty when I say this. Her name is ZERA, not zero. That is how the one feels that is messing with her...a big fat zero!!! |
| Milkshake | 01/12/09 | 11:16am | Yo ZERO! Are you a peep or a snort? |
| Tammy | 01/12/09 | 10:39am | Zero, why is Ed nuts??? He seems like a very nice person. Maybe you are nuts---with a name like Zero. It speaks for itself.............:P |
| Wallander | 01/12/09 | 10:35am | Hey Ed, those were some REALLY nice words you said about me...i'm humbled my friend. I actually enjoy this role of a loyal servant to all my global fellow beings. Speaking of something else, it sounds like you had a BLAST at the Cabin. Hey man, that is TRULY a talent in my eyes...the ability to create a cozy & warm environment for yourself & your "Pooch"...you made me really envious...not so much for the Cabin itself, but for your ability to hibernate so 'royally' & in such a cozy fashion...my hat off to you buddy. Eat your heart out Ms. Milkshake. ;-D ....and speaking of you Milky, you certainly are a special individual...a bit of a tease once in a while, but nevertheless with your heart in the right place....KUTGJ woman. :-) ....and whats up with all you women repeating the word "nuts"....i'm not exactly a Dr. Freud kinda guy, but you dont recon there is a deeper implication when women keep using that word?! ;-D ....just being silly a little...thats all....Pat, talk with you again later.... ciao for now... btw if you like to hear a really groovy tune by this new band called Metronomy, here is the addr....not only does it make you wanna wiggle your butt(if you're a girl) it's also a cool little video... enjoy... [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMjmxF58wFc] |
| Zero | 01/12/09 | 8:34am | Ed are you nuts |
| Ed | 01/12/09 | 5:16am | Good Morning Everyone! I tell you it is very hard getting back to the everyday hum drum activities. I really enjoyed going to my cabin. It was quiet, peaceful and very restful. It snowed alot which was fine, because I kept the fireplace going 24 7. I caught up on reading, thinking and also did some work on my cabin. Don't get me wrong I did not rough it. I have electricity, gas heat, water, indoor plumbing and also cable tv. It was nice that I could do what I wanted to do. My dog Max he is a shepard, dobermin mix, is my buddy. He loved it. I think we both gained a few pounds. I hope everyone is doing ok? I have to say I missed all of you and that is hard for me to say, because tough guys should not show their feelings. You are all great people and I wish you all the best this year. Pat I hope you are feeling ok. You were on my mind and in my prayers while I was gone. Take good care of yourself. We all need you. Wallander you are a special person and you care deeply about people. You are a genuine person and I appreciate your online friendship. Milkshake you are sweet and funny. Stay that way your the BEST! Everyone have a nice day and take care of yourselves. I have to go to work now. Have a Great Day!! :) |
| Pat | 01/12/09 | 5:09am | Hey everyone. I just come in at 8:00am. I love to see a new friend that will blossom in here with us. I'll talk to everyone later today. I'm going to check my mail. Love ya. |
| Zera | 01/11/09 | 10:32pm | Me like different. ive said it to quite a few over the years who has smacked im crazy, mental etc in my face, that " thanx i prefer that to ur demented limited narrowminded idea of normal"
Useally they´d curl up n make a face LMAO Got em good i did. So Milk keep it up !!!! |
| Milkshake | 01/11/09 | 2:49pm | Thanks Zera. I also think you're a pretty unique lady yourself. Wallander, I am far from being like an ice tea. I am not at all a cold person. I'm just a little different. |
| Zera | 01/11/09 | 12:30pm | Well Wallander as i told some skank who abselutely had to steal my chat nickname n make an email exactly like mine, i gotta confess that those that does these MUST ADORE us. they MUST see us as ROLE MODELS. they MUST LOVE us SO MUCH because they SO BAD wanna BECOME us. i told the skank i am SO FLATTERED she thinks SO highly of me, to wanna steal all i am LOLOLOLOL
So Milkshake ( icetea ) dont get mad, smile n say thanx im flattered u abuse n use me name LMAO
ps men can cope with big head once in awhile. lol |
| Wallander | 01/11/09 | 12:03pm | Yeah why dont you rub my nose in the mud a little more Zera....wont ya'?!! :PPP Btw there was absolutely nothing funny about that infinity thing....except maybe the way it sounds....it has a perfect meaning...especially when you have your head so messed up like our good ol' Milkshake does sometimes[I was just about to call her 'ice tea'...lol...] |
| Zera | 01/11/09 | 1:32am | Hey Milkshake
U ARE a cool lady. I say bc like me when some1 seems to bash u, u get mad n u call that 1 onit.
I never stay mad long, take too much energy. As a wise man once said, be kind to thy enemies nothing annoys them more. And here u n i can build a friendship which WILL piss whoever did this of majorly.
Wallander like that comment to infinity LOLOL
Pat did u get my emailaddy???
All rest be cool bc u are cool !!!!
coolies all. ta ta!!! |
| Wallander | 01/10/09 | 9:18pm | I'll send you a mail tomorrow Pat. It was a really nice mail you sent me last nite[my time]. Thanks. Nice to see you again dear Milky. You're such a fine little thing, you know that?! I'm touched by the level of your forgiveness & the warmth of your heart. **Wallander hugging the air(group hug) before heading into bed** :-)) |
| Milkshake | 01/10/09 | 4:33pm | Okay. Hi everyone. Sorry Zera. You misunderstood. I don't believe you said that and borrowed my name. I just borrowed the word peeps; because now I like the word. Wallander, you're awsome. Sorry for online misunderstandings. I'm just a pain in the but I guess.....hee hee. Sounds like you had a real cool vacation, Ed. I wish I had a cabin in the woods! Happy New Years to you!! Sorry if you misunderstood, Pat. What I really dislike is that word, SNORT. It reminds me of a farm. And this poll is not where the pigs lay. I love all you guys. See ya later. |
| Pat | 01/10/09 | 4:04pm | Wallander...you got mail! |
| Pat | 01/10/09 | 1:27pm | Milkshake, hi sweetie. Trying to stay neutral here, okay? But I really don't believe Zera said that. I think it is one of the people that come in here with one to three words they say that make no sense at all. They could care less about what it does to anyone that wants to be friends. I'm not talking about the ones that come in here with all those funny little jokes that make me laugh so much. Love you and don't be depressed, I know that's hard to do. I have fought depression my whole life, but it has been in the last few years that I have learned how to throw it away when I feel it coming on. Now with whatever the doctors find out for sure what is wrong with me, I get down sometimes and then I tell myself whatever happens I am spending my time laughing to the end. I want you to be happy. Just remember how many in here do care about you. Okay? |
| Wallander | 01/10/09 | 9:01am | I just hate the way i formulate myself in English. I think a BIG part of the misunderstandings that occur between other people & myself, is caused as a direct result of my poor formulation of the English language. Anyways, the only thing i can say with 100% clarity is that i'm truly fond of a lot of individuals in here...thank you for giving me so much...i wish i could just snap my finger like that, and make all of your hopes & dreams come true, but life is NOT a F*CKIN' fairy tale....the ONLY thing i can offer to all of you, is that in my eyes, you simply deserve the BEST things in life....each & every single one of you...do NOT forget the old sayings "As above, so below"...."from simplicity to infinity"..... |
| Wallander | 01/10/09 | 7:35am | In any case Milkshake, maybe i should have counted to 1000 before answering that comment. Maybe the person who said it, was just being humorous....you know, "black humor". Whoever it was, i'm over it now, so there's no need to make this into a bigger deal. And the reason i'd said you were a "pain in the butt" Milkshake, was because you asked me if i'd been confusing you with Amanda again...and for a second, i thought maybe you had not liked the fact that i'd called you a "cool gal"....i thought maybe you'd rather live without MY vote of confidence of you & your person...i thought maybe you felt i was "getting too close" to you. Therefore i tried to balance my earlier remark about you being "cool" with the pain-in-the-butt comment. I dont know if i'm making any sense? If you want my 1000% pure straight honest opinion of you Milkshake, i think you're both VERY funny & nice...indeed, you've ONLY been nice to me personally. In fact i think your heart is always in the right place Milky...perhaps it is the confusing communications in these boards that can cause the distortion of the picture one has of one another. Love ya' lots my dear Milky. And i appreciate that comment Zera, however IF it was said solely as a direct comment to the aforementioned misunderstanding between Milkshake & I, then i honestly care very little about such a comment[however much my own ego might have hungered for such a comment in such a long time! LOL] Ed, it is great to hear that you're all feeling tip top right now...and YES...i believe we are all going to have a wonderful yr....i think the keyword of this yr for ALL OF US is "No Agenda"...or perhaps "No Hidden Agendas"...wouldnt you agree? We should just let life flow easily, and believe you me, we'll be rewarded with all the things that we TRULY hope for. Pat, there's no rush....you write to me whenever you get the time & opportunity....I just wanted to give you my email addr. because honestly i'm beginning to feel a little goofy with some of my own comments to you...i guess it's my own damn insecuritities that is making me feel this way....who knows, maybe it's for the best that i stay here & make those "goofy comments" in here, because somehow feeling insecure means you're talking from the heart....or what?? Now i'm confused?? Anyways, just have a great little weekend for now....you too Milky....stay as smooth as milk mein lieber Schatz... |
| Zera | 01/10/09 | 1:32am | Hi again
4 the record Milkshake I have never taken on some1 elses identity 4 any reasons whatsoever. I dont start now either. So not only did u call me a nut but now u accuse me of stealing ur name. I do think u urself planted so u had an excuse to accuse me. Well i juss gonna say what goes around comes around n sooner or later it will bite u on ur ass.
Pat bless u hon.
Wallander u rock !!! |
| Pat | 01/09/09 | 2:28pm | HAPPY NEW YEAR, ED!!! I'm so glad your back. Can't wait to read all about you nice quiet retreat. You sure were missed. |
| Pat | 01/09/09 | 1:53pm | Hey friends. I've been really sick today. It's 4:05pm my time. I'll be here 'til at least 6:00. Milkshake, remember when that happened to me? But then the person that did it apologised, because they had left "or" off their name. I wish other people wouldn't do that. It is so childish. I just take it that whoever did this must be a child. Why would they want to try and cause a rift? That's what kids do. You, Wallander, Bam Bam, Ed, Amanda and I are friends. That's what counts. Wallander, I'm sending you mail soon. |
| Ed | 01/09/09 | 1:09pm | Happy New Year Pat, Wallander, Milkshake and everyone else. I hope you all had a nice Christmas and New Year. I was away enjoying my cabin in the woods. It was very restful. I feel a pretty good right now and hope that the year 2009 will be a better one for me and for all of you. I was reading some of your comments Pat and I am very concerned about you. You have to get better. You have been so nice to me that you deserve better. I will continue to pray for you. Wallander, how the hell are you? I hope you are doing ok. Milkshake you sound like a very nice person, don't worry there is someone out there that will see that and you won't be alone to long. Just be careful. Sorry I am sounding like a father. I just wanted to say it is wonderful to be back with everyone. Talk to you all on Monday. I have some unpacking to do and I better go to the grocery for some food. Take Care! |
| Milkshake | 01/09/09 | 11:57am | Oh Wallander.....I scrolled down and read something...I can be a pain in the butt? Correct I can be. But I don't recall being a pain in the butt to you. |
| Milkshake | 01/09/09 | 8:18am | Wallander, I never said you need your head examined. Someone used my name. So excuse this idiot that likes to SNORT and maybe a peep. It wasn't myself who said that. I like you Walander. |
| Wallander | 01/09/09 | 3:52am | Are you speaking from personal experience Milkshake? Now you got my attention...I'm all ears(& eyes)..;-D |
| Milkshake | 01/09/09 | 1:53am | Wallander, you need your head examined |
| Wallander | 01/08/09 | 10:52pm | Can you plz write to my email address Pat? I hope you were cool about my previous msg., despite its goofy tone, because it was all said in a good spirit. My email addr. is Chertopert2A@Gmail.com....hope to hear you say hi...:-)) |
| Wallander | 01/08/09 | 10:10pm | Milkshake, i was talking about YOU. Why do you even ask? How dare you question my whatever-you-wanna-call-that? LOL...No seriously, i think you could be a pain-in-the-butt at times, but apart from that, you're just lovely the way you are. Thanks so much for your response Pat...you really made my day, ma belle ma chérie. I love your mind & body... i mean i just love the first part...i mean, i also LUV the 2nd part, but not in that way...what am i saying...ofcoarse i LOVE your body that way...but i dont even know you at all....so i respectfully look away....and and and....hmm....i think i need to do something with my hands...like making pottery or something like that. You want to hear a very special kind of music by an African duo who are both blind? They're called 'Amadou et Mariam' & their latest song is called "Sabali". Here is the address: [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KhFv1qJcao] ....lots of hugs from overseas. Bam Bam i hope you're doing ok. You know when i moved to my new apartment 3 yrs ago, i was suffering from anxiety attacks myself....it was because i felt so damn "exposed" all of a sudden, after having lived in a relationship for such a long time. I had to learn the hard way, that i'd become TOO MUCH accustomed to the safety & security of my previous relationship. I was given drugs by my Doctor, in order to help me cope with my anxiety attacks, but i quit them only a month later, when i found out how TERRIBLE the side-effects of those drugs are. So instead i started to live a very hermetic life....all the way until last yr where i felt more or less ready to move on. But today i'm trying hard to overcome the "tunnel vision" that was created after 2 yrs of solitude...so that is where i'm at, at the moment. But it's been a long journey, i tell ya. I've had to deal with my fluctuating emotions during those 2 yrs, and it sure wasn't an easy thing to do. And yet, if i could go back again to that time, i would have done exactly the same things that have brought me here today. I've learned to be thankful for my own actions, & to love myself & my own way of life. Anyways that was MY OWN story. Eventhough we're not living similar lives, i hope at the very least this story was inspiring for you to hear. I honestly believe we are all at a crossroad, where we are trying to say goodbye to the EXTREME & CHAOTIC decades of 80's & 90's, and into a new & exciting era. Our collective ways of life is still ruled by those 2 decades, and until we have reached the point of complete calm & serenity, we are going to feel very stressed out....so the next 2-4 yrs., the world may seem to be battling with the idea of "not wanting to get bored", but after a while we'll realize that a little bit of "boredom" is actually a very good thing....and ironically after that point, we'll be able to go 1-2 gears higher again, than the aforementioned 2 decades....in essnce, the next few yrs is going to be like...coming to that few seconds where we are changing gears. You should keep that imagery in mind. Oh & also there is another thing that is going to be "straightened out" these next couple of yrs.; it is the we relate to computers....they are STRESSFUL little devils. Anyhoo, sorry everyone for the rant. Btw speaking of Amanda, i hope she's doing great. I haven't talked to her in a while now. Love ya' all...Wallander....ps- No need to put yourselves out there, just because i do it once in a while. Just be yourself. :-)) |
| Milkshake | 01/08/09 | 2:54pm | Wallander, are you getting me and Amanda confused again? Zera, I don't discriminate. As for the members list, the people on here care. I am clean, thank you very much. Oh excuse me. I need to sneeze. The fact that you keep saying snort; well excuse me while I have to SNORT! |
| Pat | 01/08/09 | 12:56pm | Hey everyone, spent most of day in bed. Feeling very tired. Came in to work for last half of day and not staying long. Modesty Blaze, we have lost a lot of the ancient wisdom, but many are gaining everyday, in bits and pieces. Zera, I found one place in here were someone claimed that someone else called you nuts. Overlook that, it wasn't true. Besides, there is nothing wrong with any of us being a little nutty. I like nutty. I have more fun with nutty. I like seriousness, also. Hell, I try to like everyone. No one on this planet will ever escape some kind of discrimination. No matter who we are, what we look like, what we eat, what we do or don't do, where in the world we live, what color, what religion or faith, no matter what physical impairment we have, we are all guilty of some form of discrimination and that is really sad when you really think about it. Even nature doesn't escape it. Why humans were ever put on this beautiful planet, I'll never understand, and I don't go by the bible version of it, either. Anyway, getting back on track, in here is a good place to be. We all have our ups and downs(as my sweet Wallander pointed out...hugs and kisses, baby). Zera, I hate someone tried to break in on you. That is a scary thought. Put a gun under your pillow, unless you fear guns or don't believe in owning one. You could burn sage and pour salt around your home, also, unless you fear that. Get a big badas* dog that is protective of you, unless you fear that. Or just pray for protection. Milkshake, I've read my cards before and they have said that and it was so sweet of you to think of me in doing that, but I have relationship fear. Yes, there is something I fear. I keep that part of my heart closed, I guess because of past pains. There is only one that has come close and we all know who he is. He knows who he is(I think). I couldn't give a bigger hint. You have a big heart, Milkshake, I knew from many of your comments. You will have a love and he will love you deeply. Skip the duds and don't let him pass you up, but don't get in a rush. Wallander, I missed you, I thought I lost someone in here I really care a lot about. Like I said earlier in this comment, we all have our ups and downs. So you and I had that day. I agree with the suggestion of making love with or in our brains. I won't push you away again. I'll keep you close until you meet your flesh and blood love face to face someday. Okay? Man, I make myself sound like some school girl. How embarassing!!! Heading home now. I fear comments tomorrow. But I put my ownself out there, didn't I? Bye. Love to all. |
| Milkshake | 01/08/09 | 11:42am | Hi Wallander. I've been depressed with my life too lately. I bet 2009 will be a much better year for both of us. Thanks for saying that about me. You're a real cool guy too!!!!! |
| Wallander | 01/08/09 | 5:03am | Hey there Pat, i take the FULL blame for having caused this silly misunderstanding. I know what you mean...i would have ALSO been slightly insulted, if somebody did that to me....plz do NOT let your mind wonder off into those alleys...i only had the BEST of intentions when i said it like that. But i also acknowledge the fact that i screwed up BIG TIME! Maybe this is because it is myself who is slightly negative at the moment...i'm a little depressed about my own life right now, and it is somehow showing in my behavior towards other ppl. Isn't it called a "projection" in the realms of psychology?! Anyhoo, plz do NOT take this apology of mine to seriously either....lets just move on, and do what we've always done in here....to make love with each others brains. ;-)) Modesty Blaze, my curiousity got the best of me, and i had to google Anneliese Michel.....OMFG...that was one HELL of a shock!!! I'm excited to hear what you have to say in that regard....i sure hope you have an explanation similar to Pat's. And Zera, welcome in here. I honestly believe you misunderstood Milkshake. But Milkshake is one of the COOLEST gals in here, and i'm sure she's over it. You should be too. Dont give up posting though. We're always glad for new & fresh faces in here. In fact you should NOT regard us as "some ppl who own the joint"....just come in & be yourself, and everyone will appreciate it. Cheers. :-)) |
| Zera | 01/08/09 | 1:41am | Hey Pat u can reach me at lonniej2002 at yahoo dot com. mail me! |
| Milkshake | 01/07/09 | 2:55pm | Pat, I wish I did have a boyfriend this past Christmas and New Years. It's been about 2 years since I've had a relationship. I read cards and asked something about you, Pat. And it said that there is a good possiblity that you will be in another relationship by spring time and it's better than what you've had in the past. Anyway, I thought I would share that with you. |
| Pat | 01/07/09 | 2:09pm | Zera, your welcome. I'm glad you took a leap in faith. I am fixing to head home, but tomorrow I have a lot to talk about. Yes, it is only fair for whoever called you a nut to apologize. I admire your sincerity and hang in here. Love ya. |
| Zera | 01/07/09 | 1:55pm | Ps calling me a nut was wrong. 4 that who said that n those that agreed to it owe ME an apology, fair is fair-!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| Zera | 01/07/09 | 1:11pm | Thanx Pat
Just have had too many discriminations lately. This juss made the glass overflow. Useally im not angry just hurt bad.
To every1 and all, Im sorry. I apologize to each n every1- My excuse ive had bad treatment from many lately, from attempted break in over discrimination in forums to ridiculed on chat rooms.
Plz accept my apology. Blessed b All.
Zera
ps i know when im wrong. sorry again !!! |
| Pat | 01/07/09 | 11:22am | Milkshake, thank you. I read what you had said earlier about a boyfriend by next christmas. I see a few options, but you have to see the one that really matters. If you practice using your intuition on a daily basis with everyday life and learn the mistakes from the real you will start saying something like,"damn, I knew that and I didn't listen." You'll learn the difference in your conscious mind from your subconsciuos mind(intuition, esp, psychic, higher self, an angel or whatever anyone wants to call it). It is a blessing that was given to everyone, some just fear it. Learn to meditate, if you don't already. You learn many more things from doing that. Modesty Blaze and Bam Bam, first of all, glad your back. Now this is just my opinion and belief, but I 100% do not believe in demon possession. That girl, like many others are very sick in their minds. She was neglected and abused by very superstitious people(also a bit fanatic). I have a very open mind to many, many things and to me, demon possession is not one of them. If her body was exumed today, forensic science could prove what was wrong with that girl. I have no doubt. Now I feel sorry for a lot of mentally sick people that will go through this, because of that movie, even though I didn't see it. People that call themselves exorcists will have a booming business at a sick person's expense. They have this totally fake show about exorcism on t.v. and I watched about 10 minutes of it and that was it. It is giving many people 5 minutes of fame and that's all. I don't like charlatans. Bam Bam, I agree about these polls, but "what are ya gonna do?" Honey, please don't get that stressed and anxious. I enjoy the polls when they are running smoothly to the next and the next and so on, but until they arrive, hell, just join the rest of us "cool misfits" on here. Zera, I'm being nice about this, but you need to calm down. Amanda nor anyone else is attacking you. What in the world does your soul being saved have to do with any comment...but your own comments that you keep saying. Why do you have so much anger? Something else is causing this anger. I remember in past comments that were tough on you, but not this time around. The slate is wiped clean. No one is judging you. We all want to have fun in here. Who, what, where, when and how are you being discriminated against in here? I want to understand, because believe it or not, I do like you. It would be nice for you to stay, but clearly there are issues here. There are so many very nice, sweet people in here to talk to that could be a friend to you, but I think you have to take the leap of faith first. No one in here is your enemy. Ed, where are you? If you're back, tell us about the heaven you were in. Wallander, I am missing you. What's up? Your last comment about my errands was so formal and not yourself. Yesterday, it kind of hurt my feelings a little bit.I thought we were friends..."sad face". Love to everyone. Excuse any mistakes. |
| Zera | 01/07/09 | 9:32am | WHATEVER Amanda!!! keep ur fake act as higher than thou open, you may need it at the UNemployment line for actresses.
as for the rest of you, keep discriminating me and others like me. One feed wont satisfy you ever.
Me? Ill keep my breath because you are so NOT worth it. All i hope is you grow up and look past youselves, biut thats too much to hope for, Christ the human race is doomed with the likes of you. Save your breaths, you wont see more of me for now.
Admin NEW POLL AND BY ALL MEANS CLEAN OUT THE MEMBERS LIST. Hell if I go so what, like I care snort !!! |
| Amanda | 01/07/09 | 6:19am | As my English teacher would say.."There is the English language lying stabbed to death and bleeding on the floor"
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| Zera | 01/07/09 | 12:12am | Hi Pats thanx.
Amanda i type as type n since u state u is intelligent enough to read what i write congrats to u.
Well im nuts thanx i prefer nuts from ur perfect view or normalcy LOL
4 record i did read every post made b4 replying. Mine was a collective short gathering of what was said. Pardon if some of u got ur throats caught in a sling.
What makes me happy is not all agree to bash but agree to disasgree.
With this I say, any who gang up on one mut have a sad life, n 4 that im sorry u have sucha sad sad life.
Now instead of bashing the one who points it out, look at urselves. Typ reactions from higher than thou females to bash the one that points it out. N to boot claim they r nuts. Next 1 of u will say i need saving n am a lost soul. Bring it on. U cant say anything I aint heard b4. tells more what kind of women u are than what u say i am.
Further has this proven my point to y i dont come as much. I wont allow u to use me as ur life´s sick sad bashing bag. get a grip on ur selves. Oh ah no i have my life in control, n no i dont need saving from the lot of ur religious view, nor is my soul lost. blessed b |
| Bam Bam | 01/06/09 | 8:30pm | Oh yeah I almost forgot, as for Anneliese Michel; dont beleive the movie version and don't get too scared. Apparently something did happen to a girl in Germany which is what the movie was based on and I mean loosely based. The rest is just stories of village people and her family. I think you take from it what you take. It was a fantastic movie though and it scared the crap outta me! Whoo! Even I had to look up her info after that. |
| Bam Bam | 01/06/09 | 8:24pm | Pat I've been away for a while, I hope your okay. I'm so sorry your not feeling well. I've stayed away because the polls are lasting waaaay too long and I'm super stressed to the point of anxiety attacks! Yuck. It really stinks because I can't enjoy the usual exchange everyone shares in here. I think the moderator didn't go on vacation, he must have quit. These polls aren't the best and they are never ending! NEW POLL PLEASE! Something exciting and new! |
| Modesty Blaze | 01/06/09 | 3:45pm | Does anyone know if the story of Anneliese Michel is true? I personally think she was very ill but there are a lot of religious people who love to claim otherwise. The photos and recordings of her are not of much help either - they just freak the living daylight out of you! I'm dealing with a client at my work at the moment, who claims to be suffering from the same thing. She's been testing my faith lately but fortunately I feel I've mmanaged to uncover the real cause of this condition. This whole story with Anneliese Michel and my client has been a major factor in making me look deeper into some of the ancient belief systems from other corners of the world, and to break away from other orthodox teachings e.g. Christianity, Catholicism, Islam, Judaism and so on. We have a lot to learn from those lost wisdoms. |
| Milkshake | 01/06/09 | 1:04pm | First of all, thanks Amanda for trying to answer my question. Pat, I really wish you well. You add so much to this poll. You make me laugh and make me cry. But I've also noticed something else about you, Pat......You add things....intuitive information to others in an unexpected way. Out of the blue you said that I may be getting a few offers with a new partnership in my life. WOW!! Interesting and you really made my day!! I hope I do find a real good man and I will be picky and look inside this person. Thanks Pat!! Love ya! |
| Pat | 01/06/09 | 1:00pm | Zera, I don't think you are coming out with what you mean. Why did you insult Amanda? I can understand you some. Where are you from? Amanda, you little fireball. I've missed you in here with your...unique attitude...that puts me in mind of my daughter. Did you say one time that you were a Scorpio or not? The reason I ask is because my daughter is a Scorpio. Wallander, my my "little errand" was okay. Plenty more to come. Love ya. |
| Wallander | 01/06/09 | 10:47am | Hey there Pat. Good luck with your little errand today. The warmest regards from overseas...=) |
| Amanda | 01/06/09 | 9:19am | Zera..please learn to type..or use spell check. Thanks. Oh well I could really care less if I offended you. Your statement is obvious that you did not scroll down and read. I mean what sort of intelligent person would suggest others were afraid of the topic or of stating their minds if they had read what was written early on..now we are bored obviously..and talking about peeps..etc. If you don't like what your getting back..change what you're putting out. |
| Pat | 01/06/09 | 7:43am | I have to go to another doctor today, I'm leaving around 12:15pm. I don't know if I will be back today or not. It depends on how long I have to stay and how I feel. Hopefully, the poll will change. I say again, christmas is over...pppllleeeaaassseee new poll!!!! |
| Pat | 01/06/09 | 5:54am | Monica, if you are being funny in a fun way in the name calling, that's okay. But if the name calling is meant to be mean, please don't do that. Zera, you're welcome, and explain what "peep" means if you can, so it will end our curiosity. Where are you from? Milkshake, you could have a few offers for a boyfriend, but be very picky, I'm not meaning that you aren't. Just look deep into their eyes, not the color or if they look sexy or not. Look deep to the soul and go by your deep intuition. To So What!, every person is unique and one of a kind. Some may agree on some things or not. I don't see a herd mentality in here. Kitty, I like what you said. That was cool! Amanda, how many cats do you have? I have six and everybody calls my cats witch cats.(Which I don't mind). Hi Wallander. Love to all. |
| Monica | 01/06/09 | 5:26am | Zero Amanda says your NUTS |
| Zera | 01/06/09 | 4:08am | 1st off thanx pat. ill try to make an effort to show meself here
Amanda u offend me by suggesting i didnt read what was posted b4 i even replied. Shame on u.
Q amanda r u blonde N daft? |
| Wallander | 01/05/09 | 6:15pm | New poll please. Thanks. |
| Amanda | 01/05/09 | 5:27pm | Milkshake I am not sure if one would be a peep or not..good question. |
| Milkshake | 01/05/09 | 2:45pm | No need to apologize, Pat. But thanks. Still love you. I am still confused about peeps. I thought it meant nosey. So if people are peeps and a person is a peep; then what do you say if a person is tired?.......Hi peep! Are you pooped? |
| Pat | 01/05/09 | 8:11am | Hi, Milkshake, I'm sorry if it sounded cocky. I didn't mean for it to, honey. The reason I remember what it meant was because when it first come out it meant a gang, and my son was in his early teens and started calling his friends that and I told him I do not want to hear that word out of his mouth again(I don't know about behind my back). I am not saying he was in a gang, he was above that trash. Nowadays it just means people. That is funny...I have know idea what peep means. I am leaving at 12:15, going to see my cardiologist. I think over the holidays I had a TIA, because my left eye is drooping a little and having other symptoms. I didn't go to the hospital, because I didn't want my days off in the hospital. I am going home after that because I had less energy this past weekend and less today. Love ya. |
| Milkshake | 01/05/09 | 7:22am | Hey um, Pat.......I didn't know what a peeps was, okay? Did not know it meant people. Did not know it meant Easter egg candy either. You learn something everyday. I like winter time more spring time. I prefer cooler weather. What if there was just one person? Do you call them a Peep? |
| Pat | 01/05/09 | 6:13am | First of all...ZERA I, personally, am glad you are back. I tried so many times to get you to come back. Please stay, I welcome you back. Everyone, PEEPS is slang for people. Even I knew that, I remember when the word came out. Amanda, I don't like lies told on me, either. That's why I said in here once or twice that lies on me I will stand up to. If someone says the truth on me about something, I try to understand their point of view, even though it is hard to do. That joke was at your expence and that's not right. Now that I am back...watch how the people scatter. It happens eveytime. |
| Amanda | 01/04/09 | 8:22pm | Yeah easter is my favorite..cadburry eggs peeps..nummy!! |
| Paula | 01/04/09 | 5:25pm | Peeps? Easter? Is someone wanting Spring? I know I am! I'm still eating Christmas cookies! Ha! Poll Master/Mistress? New poll Please! |
| Amanda | 01/04/09 | 2:33pm | Yes I am refering to the yellow marshmallow chicks you get at easter..they're called peeps.
Now the peeps she or he..whatever Zera is..would be short for people. Now as far as herd mentality..well we are designed to be social creatures. Of course there is going to be a sort of pack or herd mentality. We aren't created to be solitary creatures after all. Each runs with what 'pack' he or she is comfortable with..but at the end of the day we do have a herd sort of mentality..we just choose our herds..LOL |
| Kitty | 01/04/09 | 12:35pm | It is all your preception of it all happy or sad your mind is where you dwell be happy |
| So What! | 01/04/09 | 12:34pm | If all people suddenly decided they were unique and one of a kind, wouldn't that be just another form of herd mentality? |
| SimplyRed | 01/04/09 | 12:17pm |
I think of these peeps, They are usually found at Easter
http://www.marshmallowpeeps.com/ |
| Milkshake | 01/04/09 | 11:53am | What are yellow peeps? Never heard of them. And I don't believe that was what Zera was referring to. I've been hearing alot about this "peeps" and don't understand. |
| Amanda | 01/04/09 | 9:33am | Milkshake you don't eat the little yellow peeps at Easter/Ostara??? |
| Milkshake | 01/04/09 | 9:01am | First of all Zera, Who is Peeps? And what is peeps? Can someone answer that for me? Peeps means nosey to me. I don't believe I or anyone else on this poll is shy about any topic. I vote NO. Others voted YES. No one said anyone is insane. You're wondering how old we are? I am 41 years old. Does that answer your question, peeps? |
| Amanda | 01/04/09 | 7:01am | Zera..we got bored with it and the vote is pretty much unanimous..yeah it is too commercialized...regardless of what spin the holiday has for a person. Next time you might want to read the posts on down the screen a bit. |
| Zera | 01/04/09 | 1:29am | As overall I see peeps shy from the topid at hand. Instead of arguing over the commercial christman insanity, some accuses some1 else of insanity n by it riles more up 4 an official bashing.
Makes me wonder how old people are?
Since when is it insane to have a seperate opinion from the crowd? Y is it so needed 4 some of u that we all follow crowd mentallity?
Would ANy of us b where we r had we thought the same, done the same, said the same? NO
In my mind has christmas lost its original purpose. N it commercialization has not helped.
Ye new word so what? SUE ME!!! Like i care.
Im an individual, i hate crowdmentality now go on n say im a lost soul n i need saving.
SNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNORRRTTTTT !!!!!!!!!! |
| Amanda | 01/03/09 | 4:51pm | Anyhoo..yeah old poll..I wonder if there will ever be one interesting ever again. |
| Wallander | 01/03/09 | 10:56am | I think i understand Amanda. I was refering more, to the word "Lunitic" though. ;-D |
| Amanda | 01/03/09 | 9:41am | I got rid of old garbage..old house old job old so-called friends..yep a real cleansing process. I am looking forward to my move to a new city and new friends there. My holidays were laid back..just the way I like them..ate too much...but being small I can do that. |
| Milkshake | 01/03/09 | 9:08am | I would like to add something......I had a nice New Years Day. I made Black Eyed Peas and my dad cut the onion....hee hee. I hate cutting onions. I also went shopping the other day and everything was 50% or 75% off. So I bought some stuff. I hope my next Christmas will be alot better. I also would like to have someone special (boyfriend) in my life by then. |
| Amanda | 01/03/09 | 6:50am | Mis spelling? That is how you spell the name Seamus.I perersonally don't find it amusing..childish yes..amusing no..unless of course it is one of my roomates children playing with me..then it is amusing because they are children and most of what they do is amusing. I have to say they are cute when they play with my cats...heart warming actually..but something like that..no it isn't amusing..at least to me. |
| Wallander | 01/03/09 | 2:54am | LoL...am i the only one who can see the intentional mispelling? Nevertheless it was a funny little joke, & good thing everyone took it in good spirit. :-))) |
| Amanda | 01/02/09 | 12:18pm | Oh well..and I care what others say about me why seamus? Grow up. |
| Milkshake | 01/02/09 | 8:49am | Seamus, I never said that and I don't know you. |
| Seamus | 01/02/09 | 3:00am | Hi Amanda , Milkshake told me you are a Lunitic |
| Amanda | 12/31/08 | 1:57pm | Maybe we will get one by St. Patties day |
| License To Shag | 12/31/08 | 12:55pm | Same procedure as last year...Happy New Years people....ta-daa.... |
| Milkshake | 12/31/08 | 10:59am | I'm not sure what I'm doing tonight. But tomorrow I will definately make my Black Eyed Peas and drink a little bit of Tuaka (Italian brandy) and watch old rerun specials on cable television. And my New Years resolution is to stay away and avoid all negative people and negative environments. I wish you a very Happy New Yers Pat!!! And to everyone else as well. |
| Pat | 12/31/08 | 9:33am | Milkshake, I really hope you are feeling better, honey. I truly hope you have a wonderful New Year. Are you doing anything special tonight? I'm going to play with my babies(pets) for awhile, do some reading and I doubt I'll sit up for the count-down tonight. Just too tired. When my kids were younger we would sit up and watch it together. When they became teens, I would go out and party for the New Year every couple of years on and off, it used to be so much fun, but I don't miss it. Love ya, my little friend. Now I'm not yelling at the pollster, but just emphasizing.......NEW POLL, PLEASE, Christmas is over. |
| Milkshake | 12/31/08 | 8:47am | Yes Pat. I agree. Time for new poll. And morning to you too. |
| Pat | 12/31/08 | 5:47am | Good morning, everyone. Time for a new poll, you think? |
| Pat | 12/30/08 | 2:28pm | Oh Wallander, thank you for the very nice compliment and I care a great deal about you, too. If it wasn't for our age difference and I knew there was.......well you know. But you are a sweet friend on here. I looked up your drink and it sounds delicious. Yes, I had a very nice, peaceful christmas. I don't know what my New Year's resolution could be. Oh, I know. To be healed and not sick anymore. We will be closing at 3:00pm tomorrow(Wedn.) and won't be back until Monday. Aren't you leaving for Spain and Italy soon? In case I forget to tell you and you are gone come Monday, have a very cool time. If you're still here tomorrow, I'll say goodbye then. Can't wait to hear about your trip! Love ya. |
| Wallander | 12/30/08 | 11:28am | Milkshake, your New Years Resolution is to avoid negative ppl around you, and MY OWN NY-resolution is to try & avoid negative thoughts the best way i can, so maybe there is something about positivity & negativity this time around?! My hope is that you achieve sufficient success with your resolution Milky. Pat, i sure hope you've had a great Xmas holiday, and may you feel that you have a great year in 2009. I just want to say i really care a great deal for you, because un-beknown to yourself, you've been a great voice of positivity for me personally... love ya' lots...see you all in 2009....**Wallander getting a little sentimental**[probably because of the Glöggs i've been drinking today--what is Glögg called in English?? Ah never mind...don't want to give myself a headache over things that require too much thinking...lol...] |
| Pat | 12/30/08 | 11:16am | Milkshake, you're right, no one really knows for sure. Just knowing that a very Holy Man named Jesus was born to teach people how to live their lives clean and spiritual and have much love and much forgiveness for each other is good enough for me. Now to myself and others, it is up to each of us to have that relationship personally. Milkshake, I feel really bad that your holiday time was spent with negative people, but please, honey, know in your heart that it won't stay that way. 2009 can be a new and happy adventure to jump into. I know that right now you may not feel that way, but I am your friend and as much as I can from here I will help hold you up. You and Wallander and Ed and a few others are here for me with what I am going through. Love ya. |
| Milkshake | 12/30/08 | 9:05am | No one can be for sure when Jesus was born. I heard he was born in October. I didn't have the best Christmas this year. And no, it had nothing to do with how many presents I recieved. I'm around negativity. So, to break away from it, I watched old Christmas shows and went bargain shopping and bought some cool stuff. I hope for 2009, that there are no more negative people around me. Cheers and happy holidays to everyone!! |
| Pat | 12/29/08 | 11:34am | Hey, everyone. We closed real early Wednesday and back at work today. To Xmas shopping pressure stinks, that woman was a terrible hostess, wasn't she? Maybe family and friends will never let her do it anymore after that fiasco. Apparently the gifts were more important than family being together. I understand what Danny is saying, but "family" should matter that much everyday. But then again, once a year can be when most family members can travel for them all to be together at one time. Wallander, hey bud! That's right. People can make this time of year from different religions what they want it to be as long as family and friends come together to celebrate whatever. Milkshake, hi sweetie, we do Christmas, because of different family members beliefs. I, like you, enjoy the shows and movies and songs. No matter what anyone celebrates this time of year for, it is mostly for peace and love. Last but not least, Amanda. There are those besides myself that know you are not dogging christianity, even though we know where Christmas originated from. Amanda is right about the shepherds and the sheep. In spring and summer are when sheep are in the fields. In fall and winter are when sheep are put together in corrals(folds). So Jesus was not born in December. It plainly says in the bible that shepherds were tending their sheep. Also King James did screw with all the books, chapters and scriptures. When Julius Caesar was conquering many countries, Ireland and Scotland, included. He dated the Winter Solstice to be Dec. 25th as the date, instead of the dates it really was. It's all in ancient history. Christmas didn't even began in the U.S. until the 1800s. The Germans decorated the first christmas trees in the 1500s. When the first decorated trees came to America, christians wouldn't allow them because they claimed it was "paganism". But even then commercialism started and people just followed along. I will say this...if people keep letting the government pick and start wars, we are all doomed...without ever really knowing what true peace and love is. |
| Milkshake | 12/29/08 | 8:46am | I thought about this for a few days and my vote is NO. It's a time for love, family, friends, get-togethers, decorations, hoping for snow.....maybe? But we only have this really cool, neat beautiful time once a year. It's what we make of it. I love the old Christmas shows and enjoy some of the stupid commercials during Christmas time and the songs on the radio. When it's only once a year....maybe it can become a little commercialized. |
| Amanda | 12/28/08 | 11:43am | For some the big deal is this..it is a rip off and a lie..why else do you think the nature of the season is what it is. think about it for a moment..what does holly and mistletoe have to do with Jesus..not saying I am dogging our Christianity, but we pagans are definitely taking back our holidays. Besides..why on earth if you want peace and love do you have to have one day to do that? You can't make every day Christs Mass? |
| The Psychic Love Lady | 12/28/08 | 10:30am | Yes it sure has... and it's so sad. Christmas is about the joy of giving and the joy of receiving and that can be a simple smile, or listen to someone and help them see that things are not so bad for them... my list can go on and on...
www.myspace.com/psychicwhisperwillow |
| Wallander | 12/27/08 | 4:35pm | What's wrong with trying to uphold a 'family spirit' around this time of the year[what is it Pat calls it...something to do with "winter solstice" ]?? It doesn't all have to be about Jesus, or does it? I would think if one celebrated the 'family union', it would automatically be a celebration of Jesus, because there is something holy in that. |
| Danny | 12/26/08 | 11:14am | Christmass used to be about family and comming together. Now its all about commericalism. Somewhere we forgot about whats really important. Family!!!!! |
| Amanda | 12/26/08 | 5:32am | Hey Jaycee..how about do some historical research..if you read anything posted you'd know Christ wasn't born in December..but late in September..or maybe even early October by biblical accounts. No Shepard would be out, let alone have his flock out in that weather this time of year at all.Basically Christmas was adopted by the Church ( later known as the Holy Roman Catholic Church)in or around 332 or 335 a.d. in a summit with Emperor Constantine of Rome. At this point in time Rome was the world power and the Church knew it had to gain Romes allegiance in order to pass off this new religion...so guess what..they simply Christianized Saturnalia worship and customs..including what you know now as Christmas.This Holiday was always about welcoming the Sun back to the heavens after the darkest and longest night of the year as well as appeasing the Gods of Agriculture ( which the Romans accredited to the God Saturn) so that the crops would be bountiful for the coming year. In other words, this is a time to drink and celebrate life and the coming of new fertility and growth..it has nothing to do with anyone's birth, save the rebirth of the sun..as in the star the sun..not as in the Christ son..Maybe one of these days people will stop trying to make something into something it isn't. Why else do you think it became so commercialized..it is a bounty festival after all..and look at the spending. |
| Jaycee | 12/25/08 | 7:20am | Christmas is a celebration of the Christian birth of Jesus Christ. It is now about dancing snowmen, the myth of a Santa Claus. It's an excuse for parties and much gift giving by a large number of people who are not Christian or spiritual. It is the way of the world in free America, where everything is commertialized. Istead of giving an expensive gift, how about being respectful and loving to your neighbor? |
| Amanda | 12/24/08 | 8:56am | Hey Pat..thanks. I have been busy with my new tarot site and forum so haven't had much time to breeze by. If you do your homework..and you have, there is not one Christian Holiday that is not steeped in pre-christain worship..not one..even pass over if you look for it.Not that there is anything wrong with it..but call it with it is you know? |
| Shar | 12/23/08 | 4:42pm | Christmas is waaay too commercialized. It's become as material as Valentines Day, weddings, even Easter (another holiday turned into a national spending spree).
Sadly, the majority of the general public have forgotten the true purpose of Christmas & why the 3 Wise Men gave gifts. It wasn't for brownie points! |
| Mick | 12/23/08 | 3:29pm | When I was young and had no sence I ripped my bleep on a barbedwire fence off to the Doctor I did go bleep and all I had to go bleep and all I had to show the Doctor he was no fool he made me a new one from the leg of a stool |
| Xmas shopping pressure stinks | 12/23/08 | 10:50am | Christmas as a 'culture' has taken on a life of its own and people follow the trend towards buying stuff (and consequentially going broke) like mindless sheep. Baaa! Baaa! No wonder so many people are stressed out this time of year!
Questioning this tradition is sometimes treated with social rejection, sadly. I once heard about woman who bought EVERYONE in her exceptionally large family Xmas gifts over the course of a whole year - and was pissed when other members didn't do exactly like her - she felt it was their 'duty' to buy gifts over the course of the year like she had. Lack of gifts 'ruined' her vision of the perfect holiday party she was throwing for the family. Members of her family had lost their jobs and simply could not buy for everyone - or buy at ALL. What is wrong with this woman's bossy expectations? Since when does being the party hostess give a person the right to tell others HOW and WHERE to spend THEIR OWN money - even when they cannot afford it? Family members just wanted to draw one name out of a hat and buy for that one person alone, but the generous hostess was throwing a fit and would hear none of it. Just another sheep of the commercialization. Can't this woman just be grateful she has all her family together? Maybe she needs to go sleep in a cardboard box out in the cold with no contact with loved ones for a month - see what revelation she has! |
| Pat | 12/23/08 | 10:16am | Kim, I wish you luck, honey. Amanda, you are 100% correct. I agree with you. Glad to have you back again. Yule was celebrated on the Winter Solstice hundreds of years before christianity. They called those people "pagans" like that is a bad word. I see "paganism" in many holidays that are celebrated. The Yule log was burned and then left to smolder for twelve days to keep spirits away from the homes, also. The mistletoe was sacred, because it grows on the Celts sacred Oak tree. It was used for protection, also. We have several oak trees on our property and when the wind blows hard, there are lots and lots of mistletoe in our yard. Also, holly represents death and rebirth. But because christianity and other religions have their own faiths, the church and families are responsible for teaching their meanings of this time of year, however they believe instead of---I want, I want, I want. Bam Bam, hey, how's things with you? I'm happy you and your family are feeling the warmth and peace of Christmas this year. I don't like how the stores put Christmas stuff out with the halloween stuff, either. Yes, Walmart is the worst to do that. Someone always gets hurt or killed. Did you hear about the foolish woman that was PREGNANT and got into that rush through the doors and a young 20 or 21 yr. old young guy employee got trampled to save her and he died? I feel so bad for his family, but what a brave son that had put his life on the line for someone else. In this instant I truly believe they should sue and maybe Walmart will quit this nonsense. |
| Amanda | 12/22/08 | 8:07pm | Mail order is definately the way to go. I have been almost run down several times. These folks do not care one bit..oh well..order stuff online. |
| Bam Bam | 12/22/08 | 7:53pm | This is the first year that our family actually shared Christmas lists. When my sister asked me for third time to send an amended list that contained more choices I realized how lucky we are that we have all the things we have, so manjy things in fact that I can go online to find things that I want. We are lucky..we have A warm home, food, a Christmas tree and gifts a plenty to place underneath it. I'm also disgusted that Christmas stuff is for sale before Halloween ever arrived. We've lost the true meaning of Christmas. I'm disaapointed in retailers who can't make enough money off it, I'm disappointed in people who trample and kill others likw savages to try to get the biggest sale on an item BECAUSE the retailers have placed limits on them. WalMart the disgusting culprit of that one! But, it's all of us in some way or another we've all contributed to the downfall of this beautiful holiday. I admit I have too, although I have never gone to a store on Black Friday and stood in one of those crowds getting pushed around for some stupid sale. I sat at home waiting for the Gold Box deals on Amazon. Merry Christmas everyone! |
| Amanda | 12/22/08 | 5:49pm | Yes..I do wonder who is teaching the 'true' meaning and roots of christmas
http://www.essortment.com/all/christmaspagan_rece.htm
No one knows what day Jesus Christ was born on. From the biblical description, most historians believe that his birth probably occurred in September, approximately six months after Passover. One thing they agree on is that it is very unlikely that Jesus was born in December, since the bible records shepherds tending their sheep in the fields on that night. This is quite unlikely to have happened during a cold Judean winter. So why do we celebrate Christ’s birthday as Christmas, on December the 25th?
The answer lies in the pagan origins of Christmas. In ancient Babylon, the feast of the Son of Isis (Goddess of Nature) was celebrated on December 25. Raucous partying, gluttonous eating and drinking, and gift-giving were traditions of this feast.
In Rome, the Winter Solstice was celebrated many years before the birth of Christ. The Romans called their winter holiday Saturnalia, honoring Saturn, the God of Agriculture. In January, they observed the Kalends of January, which represented the triumph of life over death. This whole season was called Dies Natalis Invicti Solis, the Birthday of the Unconquered Sun. The festival season was marked by much merrymaking. It is in ancient Rome that the tradition of the Mummers was born. The Mummers were groups of costumed singers and dancers who traveled from house to house entertaining their neighbors. From this, the Christmas tradition of caroling was born.
In northern Europe, many other traditions that we now consider part of Christian worship were begun long before the participants had ever heard of Christ. The pagans of northern Europe celebrated the their own winter solstice, known as Yule. Yule was symbolic of the pagan Sun God, Mithras, being born, and was observed on the shortest day of the year. As the Sun God grew and matured, the days became longer and warmer. It was customary to light a candle to encourage Mithras, and the sun, to reappear next year.
Huge Yule logs were burned in honor of the sun. The word Yule itself means “wheel,” the wheel being a pagan symbol for the sun. Mistletoe was considered a sacred plant, and the custom of kissing under the mistletoe began as a fertility ritual. Hollyberries were thought to be a food of the gods.
The tree is the one symbol that unites almost all the northern European winter solstices. Live evergreen trees were often brought into homes during the harsh winters as a reminder to inhabitants that soon their crops would grow again. Evergreen boughs were sometimes carried as totems of good luck and were often present at weddings, representing fertility. The Druids used the tree as a religious symbol, holding their sacred ceremonies while surrounding and worshipping huge trees.
In 350, Pope Julius I declared that Christ’s birth would be celebrated on December 25. There is little doubt that he was trying to make it as painless as possible for pagan Romans (who remained a majority at that time) to convert to Christianity. The new religion went down a bit easier, knowing that their feasts would not be taken away from them.
Christmas (Christ-Mass) as we know it today, most historians agree, began in Germany, though Catholics and Lutherans still disagree about which church celebrated it first. The earliest record of an evergreen being decorated in a Christian celebration was in 1521 in the Alsace region of Germany. A prominent Lutheran minister of the day cried blasphemy: “Better that they should look to the true tree of life, Christ.”
The controversy continues even today in some fundamentalist sects.
No one knows what day Jesus Christ was born on. From the biblical description, most historians believe that his birth probably occurred in September, approximately six months after Passover. One thing they agree on is that it is very unlikely that Jesus was born in December, since the bible records shepherds tending their sheep in the fields on that night. This is quite unlikely to have happened during a cold Judean winter. So why do we celebrate Christ’s birthday as Christmas, on December the 25th?
The answer lies in the pagan origins of Christmas. In ancient Babylon, the feast of the Son of Isis (Goddess of Nature) was celebrated on December 25. Raucous partying, gluttonous eating and drinking, and gift-giving were traditions of this feast.
In Rome, the Winter Solstice was celebrated many years before the birth of Christ. The Romans called their winter holiday Saturnalia, honoring Saturn, the God of Agriculture. In January, they observed the Kalends of January, which represented the triumph of life over death. This whole season was called Dies Natalis Invicti Solis, the Birthday of the Unconquered Sun. The festival season was marked by much merrymaking. It is in ancient Rome that the tradition of the Mummers was born. The Mummers were groups of costumed singers and dancers who traveled from house to house entertaining their neighbors. From this, the Christmas tradition of caroling was born.
In northern Europe, many other traditions that we now consider part of Christian worship were begun long before the participants had ever heard of Christ. The pagans of northern Europe celebrated the their own winter solstice, known as Yule. Yule was symbolic of the pagan Sun God, Mithras, being born, and was observed on the shortest day of the year. As the Sun God grew and matured, the days became longer and warmer. It was customary to light a candle to encourage Mithras, and the sun, to reappear next year.
Huge Yule logs were burned in honor of the sun. The word Yule itself means “wheel,” the wheel being a pagan symbol for the sun. Mistletoe was considered a sacred plant, and the custom of kissing under the mistletoe began as a fertility ritual. Hollyberries were thought to be a food of the gods.
The tree is the one symbol that unites almost all the northern European winter solstices. Live evergreen trees were often brought into homes during the harsh winters as a reminder to inhabitants that soon their crops would grow again. Evergreen boughs were sometimes carried as totems of good luck and were often present at weddings, representing fertility. The Druids used the tree as a religious symbol, holding their sacred ceremonies while surrounding and worshipping huge trees.
In 350, Pope Julius I declared that Christ’s birth would be celebrated on December 25. There is little doubt that he was trying to make it as painless as possible for pagan Romans (who remained a majority at that time) to convert to Christianity. The new religion went down a bit easier, knowing that their feasts would not be taken away from them.
Christmas (Christ-Mass) as we know it today, most historians agree, began in Germany, though Catholics and Lutherans still disagree about which church celebrated it first. The earliest record of an evergreen being decorated in a Christian celebration was in 1521 in the Alsace region of Germany. A prominent Lutheran minister of the day cried blasphemy: “Better that they should look to the true tree of life, Christ.”
The controversy continues even today in some fundamentalist sects.
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| Kim | 12/22/08 | 3:07pm | Can anybody tell me where I can find three wise men |
| Pat | 12/22/08 | 12:18pm | Hooray!!! A new poll! It is the stores and commercial industries job to the stores to make money, money, money. It is up to families and the churches to teach their meaning of what Christmas means? Wonder who is doing the best job? |
| Milkshake | 12/22/08 | 8:57am | Huh? |
| Amanda | 12/22/08 | 7:42am | Yeah, sure it has, but now a days what hasn't? |
| Emon | 12/22/08 | 2:12am | Commerciliased I have just bought the baby jesus mary for 5 dollars buy I did buy three wise men as the salesman said it,ll be very hard to find three wise men in Canada |
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